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August 08, 2005
No, This is NOT Happening
President Bush signed the corporate welfare energy bill today, which also includes a provision extending daylight saving time by four weeks. As I think DST is already asinine, the dates set for switching shouldn't affect the intellectual repugnance of the policy. Except that the compliance cost has now increased, probably significantly in the aggregate. Many machines and computer software, including Moveable Type, are programmed to automatically switch clocks on the first Sunday in April and the last Sunday in October. But now either all that programming will have to be re-written or the adjustments made manually. All of this takes time, money, and resources -- and I think it is likely that these costs will outweigh the benefits Congress thought they would be getting by extending the already suspect DST.
Posted by Zach Wendling at August 8, 2005 04:32 PM
I absolutely love DST and in fact wouldn't mind if it were two hours instead of one in adjustment and lasted all year long.
Asinine? Maybe, but a lot of folks agree with me -- well, maybe not on the two hours part or the year around, either.
DST is good for my mental health. That's all that matters to me! :-)
Posted by: Joel Thomas at August 8, 2005 05:05 PM | permalink
Sounds like what you're advocating isn't so much Daylight Saving Time as a desire to designate noon as the point in time 2 hours prior to the sun being overhead.
I figure the sun should be directly overhead at 12:00 in Greenwich on the equinoxes. Greenwich Mean Time should extend 7.5 degrees to the east and to the west of Greenwich with one hour time zones every 15 degrees of longitude thereafter.
It's just good math.
Posted by: Doug at August 8, 2005 05:26 PM | permalink
I am just the opposite.
I hate DST with a passion that burns my soul. Yes I know that is not a healthy thing, but I can't help it.
One of my many gripes about DST is that because of it, it does not start to cool off (I live in Texas) until 6:30 or after. I would MUCH rather it start to cool off earlier so that by the time I get home it is already cool.
Posted by: Lee at August 8, 2005 05:49 PM | permalink
Support for DST in any form separates the faux Hoosiers from us real ones.
DST bah.
Posted by: Nash at August 8, 2005 09:16 PM | permalink
I also love DST. It should be all year. The extra hour after work is precious, summer or winter.
Posted by: cubic rooms at August 8, 2005 10:12 PM | permalink
I say move everyone to GMT.
Posted by: Foltz at August 8, 2005 11:17 PM | permalink
Now Foltz's idea has merit! GMT around the globe. Noon would come to Indiana at something like 06:00 GMT. But nothing would stop us from working from, say 02:00 GMT to 11:00 GMT.
Posted by: Doug at August 8, 2005 11:51 PM | permalink
I'd love to see DST extended all year as well, because many people like myself would benefit from an extra hour of light. Going to and coming home from work in darkness doesn't exactly do wonders for the spirits, and in fact can help contribute to depression.
Posted by: Josh M. at August 9, 2005 01:06 AM | permalink
Why don't we just switch to stardates?
Posted by: Alan K. Henderson at August 9, 2005 04:04 AM | permalink
"I'd love to see DST extended all year as well, because many people like myself would benefit from an extra hour of light."
Same amount of light, just arranged differently.
Just out of curiousity, I have a question for you DST fan bois ;). Which part of the country do you live in?
Posted by: Lee at August 9, 2005 11:28 AM | permalink
I hate to differ with Doug on a point, but the sun isn't directly overhead at Greenwich at noon GMT on the equinoxes. The Sun is directly overhead at 12:07 p.m. for the spring equinox. The sun is directly overhead at 11:53 a.m. for the fall equinox. The difference relates to the difference between "Mean" Time versus "Solar" Time. Briefly, the earth's orbit around the sun isn't a circle, it is an ellipse, which means that the speed at which the earth is moving in its orbit changes, faster at perihelion, slower at aphelion. At perihelion the earth's rotation on its axis is too slow to keep the sun from "slipping" against the clock. In other words, it takes longer than 24 hours for the sun to return to directly verhead. At aphelion the opposite "problem" occurs. The standard time system is based on average solar time, that is "mean" time. With that qualification I agree with Doug's post.
Posted by: Paul at August 9, 2005 02:29 PM | permalink
I'm much obliged for the correction. If I'm going to base my position on math and science, it would behoove me to get the details correct.
On another point, it seems to me to be incorrect to refer to "daylight saving time all year." At that point, it probably stops being "daylight saving time" and simply becomes "time." Also, at that point, we should probably get rid of a.m. and p.m., referring as they do to ante and post meridian. With "daylight saving time all year" we're pretty much abandoning the sun's peak as having anything to do with the division between the hours before and after 12:00.
Posted by: Doug at August 9, 2005 11:36 PM | permalink
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