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August 24, 2005

And out of THIS side of his mouth...

10 hours ago, Pat Robertson claimed that his call for assassinating Hugo Chavez was taken out of context and misinterpreted:

Wait a minute, I didn't say 'assassination.' I said our special forces should, quote, "take him out," and "take him out" can be a number of things including kidnapping. There are a number of ways to take out a dictator from power besides killing him. I was misinterpreted by the AP, but that happens all the time.

Now it appears that Robertson himself misinterpreted that misinterpretation and, by golly, he did say that Chavez should be assassinated. Oh, and he's really sorry:

In my frustration that the U.S. and the world community are ignoring this threat, I said the following:

"Thanks, Dale. If you look back just a few years, there was a popular coup that overthrew him; and what did the United States State Department do about it? Virtually nothing; and as a result, within about 48 hours, that coup was broken, Chavez was back in power. But we had a chance to move in. He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent. I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think we really ought to go ahead and do it...

Is it right to call for assassination? No, and I apologize for that statement. I spoke in frustration that we should accommodate the man who thinks the U.S. is out to kill him.

You've heard of the 5 stages of grief? This is the 5 stages of covering one's butt when one says something breathtakingly stupid:

1. Yeah, I said it. And I meant it too.

2. I didn't say that, and it's an outrage how the media always distorts everything I say to make me look bad.

3. Uh, okay I said it. But I didn't meant it, and you should believe me despite the fact that I lied earlier to cover it up.

We haven't seen the 4th and 5th steps yet, but if history is any guide, he'll flip back to his original position soon. As I reported here, this is something of a pattern with ol' Pat. In 1985 he declared on the 700 Club that only Christians and Jews are qualified to have government positions. His co-host, Ben Kinchlow, even tried to save him from it, saying, "Obviously you're not saying that there are no other people qualified to be in government or whatever if they aren't Christians or Jews." Robertson replied, "Yeah, I'm saying that. I just said it....No one is fit to govern other people unless first of all something governs him. Adn there is only one governor I know of that is suitable to be judge of all the universe, that's God Almighty. Yes, I did say that. You can quote me. I believe it." Now that might be absurd enough, but it doesn't stop there. In September of 1987, Time magazine asked him about his statement. His response: "I never said that in my life. I never said only Christians and Jews. I never said that." When someone sent the reporters at Time a copy of the tape, Robertson had to eat his words.

But wait, it gets even better. In his later book, The New World Order, he went back to his original position, saying:

You don't dare say America or Christianity is a better way of living. When I said during my presidential bid that I would only bring Christians and Jews into the government, I hit a firestorm. "What do you mean?" the media challenged me. "You're not going to bring those atheists into the government? How dare you maintain that those who believe the Judeo-Christian values are better qualified to govern America than Hindus and Muslims?" My simple answer is, "Yes, they are."

He said it, he didn't say it, then he says he did say it. He really does seem to believe that reality is whatever he declares it to be at any given moment. And the scary part? Most of his followers will lap it all up without question. Yes, you can fool some of the people all of the time.

Posted by at August 24, 2005 11:55 PM

Comments

Robertson once said that he didn't need to be nice to we Methodists because we are the spirit of the anti-Christ.

Posted by: Joel Thomas at August 25, 2005 12:11 AM | permalink

And I thought I had bad things to say about the UMC.

Posted by: Alan K. Henderson at August 25, 2005 12:18 AM | permalink

This is so frustrating. I hope conservative, evangelical voices continue to critique him; I think we gain credibility when we acknowledge abberant voices in our midst:

http://addisonrd.com/WordPress/?p=183

peace
-ml

Posted by: michael Lee at August 25, 2005 02:36 AM | permalink

Robertson is the Al Sharpton of the right.

Posted by: Eric Seymour at August 25, 2005 12:16 PM | permalink

Robertson is a humorless twit - at least Sharpton has some spirit. Robertson is the Garofalo of the right, although I agree with the gist of your comment, Eric.

Posted by: Chuck at August 25, 2005 12:48 PM | permalink

I love Robertson's attempt to cover himself. "Hey, all I said was that he should be kidnapped, not assassinated! Wanting the government to kidnap someone isn't nearly as bad as having the government kill them. Eh? Eh?"

Posted by: S.J. at August 25, 2005 01:00 PM | permalink

Eric wrote:

Robertson is the Al Sharpton of the right.

Well, Robertson came first, so I'd say Sharpton is the Robertson of the left. But the comparison is apt either way.

Posted by: Ed Brayton at August 25, 2005 02:01 PM | permalink

If Sharpton had any real influence over the Democratic Party, I'd agree.

Posted by: Doug at August 25, 2005 02:11 PM | permalink

Doug-

Well that's certainly a distinction. Sharpton's power within the Democratic party is peanuts compared to Robertson's power within the Republican party. At last count, his Christian Coalition had a controlling majority of more than 1/3 of the state Republican committees around the country. Dobson probably has closer relations with the White House at this point, so his star has ascended a bit, but at the grassroots level Robertson is still the primary player. When the Christian Coalition decided to go local after his failed 1996 presidential bid, they moved very rapidly to take control of those state committees, not to mention hundreds of school boards and city councils and such.

Posted by: Ed Brayton at August 25, 2005 03:17 PM | permalink

Well, Robertson hasn't been in charge of the CC for years, so I don't think it's accurate to equate their current influence with his. I couldn't find info on their board of directors to see if he currently sits on it or not.

As far as the grassroots level, he's known but not very influential in general Republican circles. Pundits like Sean Hannity, Hugh Hewitt, etc., have more influence from what I've seen. Robertson still has significant influence among evangelicals, but he has already been surpassed by Dobson. I speak from my experience as both a grassroots Republican and an evangelical.

All that said, Robertson probably does have more influence in the GOP than Sharpton has among Democrats...but not by all that much, really. Not anymore.

Posted by: Eric Seymour at August 25, 2005 04:57 PM | permalink

I don't think the fact that he is no longer the de jure head of the Christian Coalition means much of anything. He's still the de facto head of the operation. And in terms of the grassroots campaigns to get out the vote, putting out voter guides, etc, no one can touch the Christian Coalition for organization. He pretty much wrote the book on it and everyone else is just following the plan.

Posted by: Ed Brayton at August 25, 2005 05:36 PM | permalink

There's something else I noticed about Robertson's remarks (in the original speech, that I haven't seen anywhere except for my own commentary.

The Good Reverend is still fighting the war against communism, even after we've already won, had the victory dance, tore down the goalposts, and had a five-frat-deep kegger on the quad. And I quote:

He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent.

Seeing as how communism and religious extremism of any stripe are pretty much the epitome of antithetical, how Robertson can string the words together is beyond me. Of course, I can see why he did it, trying to pull the good ol' anti-communist sentiment into the mix, but if simply citing Muslim extremists aren't enough to do that, I'd be suprosed.

And I'm utterly suprised that no one has caught this one.

Posted by: Off Colfax at August 25, 2005 06:15 PM | permalink

Robertson is the George Soros of the Republcan Party. Both made them money from questionable business dealings and because of this they have a higher place in party hierarchy than their extreme views would normally rate. They are more in line with the more extreme elements of their respective movements. The biggest difference is that while Pat's influence peaked more than a decade ago (probably around 1992), George has probably not hit his yet.

Posted by: ucfengr at August 29, 2005 08:11 AM | permalink

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