Comments on: DeLay, judicial review, and Marbury’s jurisprudence

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:38:39 +0000

http://writ.news.findlaw.com and skim the book review of Professor Hamburger’s most recent work to decide it you want to put the time in to knowing the sausage making behind high sounding law making accomplished by the KKK among others.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:41:17 +0000

Jim asserts that the “current definition” has been accepted. It has not. It is not a definition at all and has led, in its imprecision, to a long legal struggle to square a circle. It was judically incoherent, historically inaccurate, and the beginning of the assault on religion. Consider: Establishment of Relgion HAD a clear and precise meaning in English and American Law until this dumb decision. That court contained seven Masons or so and was, essentially FDR’s court. FDR’s role in Masonery is not much commented upon but Adolph Hitler, credited FDR’s Masonism for being motivation.

By: Karl

Karl — Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:47:15 +0000

I would still like to find out what the comment about Hitler, FDR, and the Masons had to do with anything, and what made Everson an abortion.

By: Jim S

Jim S — Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:31:46 +0000

Sorry, further research shows that while they upheld the statute it was where they delivered the currently accepted definition of separation of church and state.

By: Jim S

Jim S — Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:28:56 +0000

A quick search online shows that Everson was a decision wherein the Supreme Court in 1947 said that Ewing Township in New Jersey had the right if they chose to reimburse residents forced to use public transport to get their children to school, including those sending their children to Catholic parochial school. They were sued on the basis of the establishment of religion clause in an effort to limit that reimbursement to public schools. Why Anonymous is citing it is beyond me since Ewing Township won.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:11:35 +0000

Perhaps, everson should have been capitalized to Everson, SC decision circa 1947. For the unread, it is the case in which Jefferson’s phrase was ripped out of context and the clear meaning of “establishment of religion” was subverted and perverted by six or seven Masons. I am seeking the article referenced but I read a lot and at the time had no particular reason for keeping track of it. However, the Agora audience is probably better read and with any luck another reader with better memory or reason to remember could cite it.

By: Huperborea

Huperborea — Sat, 16 Apr 2005 15:57:09 +0000

Ed Brayton on the Judiciary

Ed Brayton and others of like mind champion their erroneous view of judicial review precisely because it is the vehicle by which they subvert the Democratic process that underlies our Republic.

By: Jim S

Jim S — Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:22:58 +0000

It means that “Anonymous” is a right wing whack job who believes in conspiracy theories. That’s all it means, Ed.

By: Ed Brayton

Ed Brayton — Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:27:53 +0000

Anonymous wrote:

Not so fast. There is something "put up" about the Marbury case. A scholar actually went through the transcript of the case. I have not seen a confirmation of his findings. Usually, you would like at least two sources for information as sometimes the first one might be a quack. The crack about midwestern scholars, Hamburger and Bradley, pertains to the Everson Abortion. Even Hitler called FDR "That Old Mason". Hamburger is I think U of Chicago, Bradley is of Notre Dame.

Okay, I've read this about 5 times and I haven't the foggiest idea what it means. Reference to an unnamed scholar without any reference to what he actually said, reference to the "everson abortion" (whatever on earth that is) and then a wholly gratuitous comment about Hitler and FDR. I'm stumped completely.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Apr 2005 22:26:02 +0000

Not so fast. There is something “put up” about the Marbury case. A scholar actually went through the transcript of the case. I have not seen a confirmation of his findings. Usually, you would like at least two sources for information as sometimes the first one might be a quack. The crack about midwestern scholars, Hamburger and Bradley, pertains to the Everson Abortion. Even Hitler called FDR “That Old Mason”. Hamburger is I think U of Chicago, Bradley is of Notre Dame.